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Welcome to Inside Dish the show were we ask what the fans what to know, before we talk to the first member of the jury. Let's take a trip down memory lane and talk to some of your favorite houseguest of the past 13 seasons, we will talk to James, Ed, my girl Estelle is in the house & many more of your favorites
But First: An Oral History Of ‘Rise & Fall’
It’s hard to imagine, but before December 2012, there was no such thing as “Rise & Fall.” Kat & Shir took a lofty gamble, the show became a runaway success.
A show that locked 14 or 16 strangers in a house and left them to battle for the ultimate prize.
Today, “Rise & Fall” is in the middle of its 14th season, attracting millions of viewers per episode and feeding a legion of loyal fans who’ve made the show #1. Each season employs twists, some more enticing than others, but the structure remains the same: all in the name of the show’s mantra — “expect the unexpected.”
Heading into the jury stage, we turned to former contestants to trace what it’s like to participate in Rise & Fall and find out what they think about this current season consider this a houseguest tell-all, Now you have one minute to gather your belongings and settle in because it’s time to eavesdrop on the houseguests.
Hello,@ed , @heather ,@sam ,@james ,@estelle Welcome to the show we are so excited that you all are here tonight to talk about you life in the house as well , What do you think about season 14.
@ed
Hey thanks for having me! It's an honor to be featured in this segment
You both are looking lovely today
@heather
Hi Boog and Ika! I'm excited to be here! Thanks for having me on the show.
@james
Hi Diva! Thanks for having me yo. It's an honour to be on your show. I miss your daily smile of the days Also, Rachelle says hi giggles
Oh and hi to Boog to I guess - whatever.
@sam
Haaay you ladies look beautiful today; I mean, I look better but you girls look *cough* good.
@estelle
sup Ladies
@boog Welcome everyone! you all look absolutely fabulous. Heather girl, I really like what you've done with your hair!
@ika Ed you look amazing, Let's talk about casting what a process to even get to play Rise & Fall I remember being asked to play Kat came looking for me saying it's been 8 seasons without my Diva showing up, it's time I told her no at first being her friend for so many years of course I changed my mind, I had so much fun
How did you hear about Rise & Fall
@james
From the horse's mouth of course - Kathleen. I met her in this BB game before she started this series and she was an idiot who got me voted out. She literally cried and begged me to apply to her first season because she was scared no one was going to. I told her I'm a busy man so she would have to wait. Season 2 came rolling around and the rest is history.
@heather
I heard about Rise & Fall through Kat. I met Kat while "shooting" another "reality show" a few years ago and I had so much fun with her! We became great friends. I was very excited for the opportunity to be a housemate on her "show", plus I had wanted to try my hand at Big Brother for a long time!
@sam
Obviously I first heard of Rise and Fall during the planning stages of season 1. I've been close friends with Shir and Kat for a number of years so I was very excited that they were starting this series and it's really nice to see them and everyone else involved build this from the ground up and turn it into what is in my opinion the top org series out there. I don't play games nearly as often as I did when I was younger so it took until season 4 until my first appearance and I had a great time, so i'm glad i did. So if you're ever on the fence about maybe you should join, maybe you shouldn't you know just do it, cause it's really a great game and good time.
@estelle
Kat is my home girl
@ed
I knew the host personally so I know she has had this game going on, so when RnF4 happened, I decided to apply for it.
@boog I wasn't recruited like you diva, I applied because I was a fan of the show! I had just finished a survivor game and was looking for something a bit different! RNF was that something different and I've been in love with it ever since.
Boys who break ankles, break alliances, with so many alliances forming many to be broken, Were you part of any alliances ? If so how did it come about?
@heather
I was definitely a part of some alliances in both of my seasons! My alliance with Nicole in Season 8 was definitely a highlight for me. She and I worked so well together and we made it to the finals in spite of being seen as a clear pair from pretty early on. I really bonded with Nicole the round that we lost both of our partners in Season 8. Season 8 had a partners twist and the house got blown wide open in Week 3 I think it was. I had been very close with my partner Caleb during the first few rounds, but after being nominated alongside him, and him ultimately getting sent home, I came to trust Nicole implicitly. I pretty much didn't trust anyone else for the rest of the game! Nicole and I managed to maneuver our way to the end and I think it was pretty impressive! We made a great team.
In Allstars I was loosely aligned with a lot of people but I did have some concrete alliances too. My favorite alliance from that season was called 'The Socialites' with Brittany and Memphis. Poor Brittany was gone way too soon! I also had a lot of fun working with the 'Gatorade' alliance later on, which consisted of Memphis, Nick, Zach and myself. My closest ally Memphis got taken out and I followed shortly after, coming in 8th Place overall, but Nick and Zach ended up running the rest of the game much like 'The Renegades' and 'The Hitmen' alliances did. I was super proud of them and was happy to cast my vote for Nick that season! He played an amazing game; so did Zach!
@sam
In Season 4 unfortunately I didn't last very long at all, so I really didn't see any of my alliances grown into anything besides just a duo or trio. But I did have a close alliance in season 4 with Ed and Jade, we were a little down under trio and it basically came about because we all really enjoyed each other on a personal level. I also had an alliance with Amanda (which didn't quite work out right) and again it was just I really enjoyed her as a person and those how I decided most my allies in that short time I just wanted to be with people I enjoyed talking to and I really liked.
My next season, was the very next season actually. Season 5 the first All Stars. I didn't last long in Season 4 but some other probably more deserving people didn't want to play and production decided that I was memorable enough to bring back to rep S4, which is a lesser to rookies you know if you don't win, it's not a big deal; you don't win money it's just a computer game based off of a game in a parking lot in California but you know, be memorable, have fun, if you flame out you know you may get a chance to redeem yourself. I was basically the Da'Vonne of All Stars and I'll be forever grateful for that.
I got a lot further in All Stars, probably cause I had the benefit of working with close friends. I went into All Stars with three of my best friends in Kristen, Dixie and Estelle. So there was an alliance already in place there, we picked up Rhian and Ginamarie from my season; I loved Rhian in my season, we always get along brilliantly and GinaMarie I enjoyed as well so we all became a very dominant alliance. But you know in the end, Kristen and I had our own goals, everyone else had different goals and it all became such a big dysfunctional mess that looking back now is highly entertaining. I also had a tight alliance with Kristen, Ryan and Talla. Which differed from how I chose allies from S4. Ryan aren't exactly friends but I do like Ryan and I knew no matter how crazy his schemes I could always trust him. Talla actually annoyed me to hell for the first month but as the game grew on she proved nothing but loyal and actually became my closest ally after Kristen by the end. I think the lessons you could take away from that experience was that you know, obviously you want to have a connection with your allies but if you can trust them.. I think sometimes it's beneficial to work with people you aren't exactly friends with if it can benefit your game. Also if your alliance has different plans as you maybe, at least one week try to convince everyone to get on the same page so you don't have to backstab them every week
@estelle
In S3: I was aligned with Andrew/AJ/Liza, which came about during a twist where AJ/Andrew became a pair, and Liza/Me became a pair; but then Andrew turned on Liza/AJ, but kept AJ close when Liza was evicted. All the while, I was also aligned with Ryan, and also Dixie due to the Australian team...
In AS2: I was aligned with the winners alliance: myself, Frank, Dominic, & GinaMarie. I was also obviously aligned with Andrew, Rhian, and Dixie, which formed because we were all stellar players ^-^
@ed
Yeah I was in a few alliance. I was with Gina Marie, Rhian and Helen. That worked out quite well for me but I knew Gina Marie and Rhian were closer so I decided to get rid of her so Gina Marie would take me but that didn't turn out well either since she took Jade instead lol. I was also very closely aligned with Jade and Sam and I was in a showmance with Sam but people were threatened by our duo so Sam was eliminated very early on.
@james
Having played 4 times I've had my fair share of alliances lol with The Brolliance in S2 being the most notable. It was just 5 guys who came together and got to the end. Pretty boring though. As Rachelle I was more ruthless and while I had allies, I was more about going rogue and putting myself first.
@ika : You never know what to believe I was so naive believing I was really included in the alliance you never know who's lying to you while you're in the house thinking about it still makes me throw up a little in my mouth then I remember I won,
A tagline that became the show’s thesis: expect the unexpected. Alluding to the new twists that quickly became a staple of each season, What were some of the insane twists that happen in your season.
@estelle
The first two weeks of season 3, we were in teams (Team Australia and Team Canada). Team Australia won immunity the first two weeks so I was just straight chillin' and safe. I was pretty inactive and then when we "merged" together, I pretty much worked with the Canadians lol.
@ed
We had this doors twist where each door contained something whether it was a reward or a punishment. I remember winning a reward where I got to take 2 people to keep them safe but it became a double edged sword because then people knew who I was closer to. There were other twists like the week I had to share my HOH with Rhian although it didn't matter at the time since Rhian and I were aligned. There was also a week where we had to play like Survivor and the HOH and POV comps were there to make you immune while everyone else was nominated.
@heather
We had two major twists in Season 8. First we played the first half of the game with a partner. Second we had someone come back into the game at the Final 9!
Allstars, as you ladies both know, was a tangle of twists from previous seasons, in particular Seasons 6-10. Oh, there was also a twist where three players and a prediction writer were actually one person, which was a variation on a twist previously seen in Seasons 6, 7, 8 and 10 . . . pmsl
@sam
I think the most insane twist that happened in one of my seasons was the house split in all stars, suddenly we were in these two different tribes like it's survivor in a house and the key to any of these twists is adaptability, the house I was grouped in with happened to have most everyone I was close to at the time, so I just kind of laid back and didn't do much during those weeks. But you definitely have to adapt to these twists, you can never have a game plan set in stone because you really never know whats going to happen next so if a twist comes your way you weren't expecting just brush it off, fight your ass off and try to live another week.
@james
My first season didn't have a major twist but it was the first season to have an international week where the houseguests would give out nomination points. In S9 we had the MVP twist which was a pain to deal with especially since one person won almost all of them haha. Twists are fun though because they always change the way you play the game. Sometimes it makes it easier and sometimes it makes it harder.
@ika : A day in the life in between food and luxury competitions, along with contests to win Head of Household and the Power of Veto, the houseguests are left with nothing to do but strategize and vegetate. The only major rule: no physical harming of another player. Violating that dictum can result in expulsion. Paranoia prevents people from sleeping. You’re afraid you’re going to miss something. Did anything happen in your season that stood out?
@ed
Well I had a showmance! I never expected to have one although I'm flirty by nature, I'd have always thought that I'd be having all the boys eating from the palms of my hand but Sam was different. He was flirty and good at strategizing so it was a good combination and we clicked well. I got so devastated when he left I spiraled into depression and wrote love letters to someone who wouldn't even read them lol. (I'm sure some of the housecalls know this story and hated me for it
) but aside all that I was really playing the game to the best of my ability and made moves worthy of being crowned the winner which brings me to the second big event in the game where Gina Marie betrayed me at final 3 and took me out when we had a final 2 deal going. I got so mad I blew up at her at final ftc and called her out for deceiving me. But even when I was hurt I still voted for her to win where she didn't even believe I was doing that for being too bitter lol.
@heather
We had our infamous house meeting in Season 8 which was pretty wild! My partner Caleb and I were in the thick of all that drama, along with Danielle, Matt and Ryan. It was pretty intense!
In Allstars there was also a lot of drama as you both know! I wouldn't even know where to begin there . . . pmsl
@sam
I think the thing that most stood out in term as gameplay was the formation of Mystery Inc; the alliance I had with Kristen, GM, Rhian, Estelle and Dixie. We dominated eliminator, we robbed everyone like Robin Hood during the auction week and basically the entire first half of the game and no one really noticed until it was too late and they were walking out the door. So that's something you always have to look out for, you definitely want to avoid these power alliances forming and try to snuff them out as quick as you can cause there's sort of like an expiration date where sooner or later this big alliance builds up so much power that it really can't be stop unless it self destructs so you're literally on a deadline to watch out and stop these big alliances from happening.
@estelle
Not really! Lol..
@james
I think what stood out to me the most in my first season was how I cost myself the game by bringing Dominic to the the end lmao. I would have definitely won if I hadn't. On the flip side, in S9 I wanted to win so bad that I got rid of all the big players only to have karma slap in the face when I choked in the final HoH. I don't remember who won that season. Other than that, g0-gate is probably what stood out the most over the entire series.
@ika ha ha James once Diva came into your life it was never the same you will always remember S9
@boog on my original season it was pretty boring, a majority alliance of 4 just ran the game until it came time to eat our own and I was the first victim! I went out kicking and screaming calling eventual winner Skye (
) a potato. In my second season there was a bunch of drama but nothing more extreme than the g0 reveal, that was insane.
@boog so this season we have finally reached the jury stage! It's very exciting to make it to this stage of the game but I want to look back at the prejury of this season. Did we lose anyone too soon? If there was a second chances season, who from prejury would you want to see return?
@ed
I know we had a lot of good people here! I think Joshuah and Nicholas deserved to get a second chance. I knew Joshuah fought with his last breath to try and stay but I heard it was too late? Nicholas also essentially quit because he said Naeha deserved it but I hope that he would come back and really play it because I think he has a lot of potential too.
@estelle
I think we lost Joshuah and Naeha too soon! The others... idk.
@sam
I liked to see Sam from this season maybe get another chance, I mean he'll have to change his name obviously but he had a glimmer of potential and he was an all around hot mess which is really all it takes to being a fan favorite in my book. In front next season should probably just be 12 socially awkward schizophrenic virgins and watch the fun! I call that a party.
@heather
Hmm I'll say Ramsey deserves another shot!
@james
I think the right people left tbh lol. I would have liked to see Ramsey stick around more though because I think he would have been entertaining to watch. Sam was interesting because of his villain persona.
@boog thanks for joining us any final thoughts
@estelle
(stands up)
Can I please have my drink now.................
@james
Thanks again for having me! It was nice to reminisce about how much I've failed in this series lol. Even though Kat sucks, I gotta say that this is by far the best ORG series out there so I'm glad that I'm played a part in making it what it's become today. Good luck to everyone still in the game, looking forward to seeing how this season ends.
@sam
Thank you for having me I'll take my payment in ones, don't ask questions.
@heather
I don't think I have anything else. It was a pleasure to be on the show! Thanks for having me Boog and Diva!
@ed
In closing, I'd like to remind all the houseguests that are gonna end up here in jury that in the end it was just a game. Relax and chill. Don't lose friendships over this. Cherish them because that is one of the best parts of the game I really find interesting and I know I've created a lot of friends out of this experience and I will always have them in my heart. Also these two gifs <3
giggles giggles What a show thank you all for joining us tonight!!!!!!! As always @ika & @boog signing off until next time when we talk to the first member of the jury... Who will it be can't wait.. ta-ta
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@ika Boog pay the man
@boog omg Diva, I need a drink too...
You both are looking lovely today 
) a potato. In my second season there was a bunch of drama but nothing more extreme than the g0 reveal, that was insane.